Showing posts with label alice. Show all posts
Showing posts with label alice. Show all posts

Saturday, March 22, 2008

Où est ma chatte?

I visited Tours, in France, last weekend in order to see my step-sister. While I was there, I picked up a French version of both Alice books, "Les Aventures d'Alice au pays des merveilles" and "Ce qu'Alice trouva de l'autre côté du miroir". While I don't speak French, I can read it somewhat and so I can at least examine certain aspects of the book.

Most interesting is looking at the language jokes/references in the book. In the original, there's a few French references, which sort of don't work in a French version. Like where she wonders if the mouse is French and speaks to him in French, so they have to note that what she says is in French in the original. Or the part where she addresses her foot and refers to it as masculine, because it's a masculine noun in French. A joke that's obliterated in French as the foot has to be masculine anyway... Then there's parts like the line "curiouser and curiouser" which have to have footnotes detailing the original line and noting that it's bad English.

These language differences are of course most prominent in the translation of Jabberwocky.


Il était grilheure ; les slictueux toves
Gyraient sur l'alloinde et vriblaient :
Tout flivoreux allaient les borogoves ;
Les verchons fourgus bourniflaient.

" Prends garde au Jabberwock, mon fils !
À sa gueule qui mord, à ses griffes qui happent !
Gare l'oiseau Jubjube, et laisse
En paix le frumieux Bandersnatch !

Le jeune homme, ayant pris sa vorpaline épée,
Cherchait longtemps l'ennemi manxiquais...
Puis, arrivé prés de l'Arbe Tépé,
Pour réfléchir un instant s'arrêtait.

Or, comme il ruminait de suffêches pensées,
Le Jabberwock, l'œil flamboyant,
Ruginiflant par le bois touffeté,
Arrivait en barigoulant !

Une, deux ! Une, deux ! D'outre en outre,
Le glave vorpalin virevolte, flac-vlan !
Il terrasse le monstre, et, brandissant sa tête,
Il s'en retourne galomphant.

" Tu as donc tué le Jabberwock !
Dans mes bras, mon fils rayonnois !
Ô jour frabieux ! Callouh ! Callock ! "
Le vieux glouffait de joie.

Il était grilheure ; les slictueux toves
Gyraient sur l'alloinde et vriblaient :
Tout flivoreux allaient les borogoves ;
Les verchons fourgus bourniflaient.


Compare this with the original and even without being able to speak French, you can notice certain things. How certain nouns like "toves" and "borogoves" have just been carried over. How some of the words seem to have just been made "more French" ("frabjous" becomes "frabieux", etc). How the second stanza doesn't rhyme, or how the sixth inserts a rhyme where there's none in the original ("Callay" becomes "Callock" for no apparent reason). Of course, anyone who does speak French is free to point out certain things I may have missed.

Another poem that suffers from being translated is the final poem in "...Looking-glass". The translation means it loses its original acrostic nature and so no longer spells out "Alice Pleasance Liddell". This is again noted in the back of the book.

There's other differences that have nothing to do with the translation. Such as how the list of pieces is omitted from the beginning of "...Looking-glass". Or how the illustrations of Alice passing through the mirror are on adjacent pages, rather than on either side of the same page (intended so that you have the effect of Alice actually going through the page).

Aren't languages fun?

Friday, February 15, 2008

I wonder how many Alices there are in the world...

Alice in popular culture sighting no. 32: I just caught a banner advert for a book called "Alice in Genderland" by Dr. Richard Novic. It tells the story of Novic's life as "Alice". I'll let you make your own connections to parts of my earlier posts...

Saturday, January 05, 2008

3000 words or more

Yesterday I bought Bryan Talbot's graphic novel, "Alice in Sunderland". I'm sure I'll have lots to talk about on here when I've read it.

Alice in popular culture sighting no. 17: A while ago, my friend Becka got the Cheshire cat from American McGee's Alice tattooed on her left arm.

Alice in popular culture sighting no. 18: I went to the Bierkeller last night and there was a girl there dressed as Alice. I think there was another girl dressed as the Queen of hearts, but I wasn't sure and I didn't get a picture of her.

Thursday, January 03, 2008

What I did on my holidays

Alice in popular culture sighting no. 15: In Tony Wilson's novelization of 24 Hour Party People, he references Alice in Wonderland twice. First on page 67: "Wilson perched, half-cross-legged, on a bar stool, holding court like the caterpillar on the mushroom", and then on page 78: "He just retreated till there was less even than the smile of a Lewis Carroll cat."

Alice in popular culture sighting no. 16: I've been reading through some of my old comics and found that District X number 12 (written by David Hine and Illustrated by Lan Medina) ends with an epilogue where Ismael Ortega finds Mikhail Smerdyakov reading Alice in Wonderland to his uncle Gregor who has now fully taken root in one of the tunnels underground. Mikhail notes "Uncle Gregor says the proper title is Alice's Adventures Underground." (The title of the original, much shorter, book Carroll wrote for Alice Liddell).

Monday, December 03, 2007

A contradiction in terms

Alice in popular culture sighting no. 10: Interesting Times, the 17th Discworld novel, by Terry Pratchett, features this passage on page 36:

'Curiouser and curiouser', said the Senior Wrangler. [...] 'You must mean "curious and more curious", surely? And even then it doesn't make much sense-'
This is especially interesting as Pratchett has openly expressed his hatred of the Alice books...

Also interesting is the fact that "curiouser" is accepted by the Firefox dictionary. As are "wonderland", "chortle", "galumph" and "burble"...

Tuesday, November 27, 2007

Alice is Quite Interesting

Alice in popular culture sighting no. 7: Episode 11 of QI ("Endings", shown on BBC4 on Friday, to be repeated on BBC2 this coming Friday), finishes with a quote from Alice's Adventures in Wonderland. The King of Hearts to the White Rabbit: "Begin at the beginning, and go on till you come to the end: then stop."

Saturday, November 24, 2007

I'm Batman

From Slashdot:

"Online Nicknames Google better than Real?"

I know mine certainly do. Well, obviously other than Alice, as that's rather common. It definitely doesn't help that there's a footballer with my name, as well as a character from family affairs. Hell, there's at least two people with the same name as me in Leicester, alone, according to Facebook...

I'm definitely nowhere near as high as Jess.

Friday, November 16, 2007

A quick note

Alice in popular culture sighting no. 4: I'm watching the "50 greatest comedy sketches" on channel 4. David Walliams just compared Vic and Bob's MasterChef sketch to Alice in Wonderland. He was probably talking about the Disney version as he mentioned it being disturbing and "all going wrong in the end", which doesn't quite happen in the original novel.

Who am I?

So either I don't have any "self," or else I have a multitude of "selves" appropriated by them, for them, according to their needs or desires.
- Luce Irigaray, "The Looking Glass, from the Other Side"

I use a lot of different names on the internet. I expect most people do. I wonder if they all mean something? Or if any lack of meaning they all have may have some (meta-)meaning to it. Looking at my own names, I know the stories behind them and what I use them for and discern the individual personality traits of the members of this family of names that make-up my internet existence.

Let's begin with what could be considered the head of the family. The name that I use as often as possible and is the oldest that is of any significance. Shen-an-doah. Taken from a Pitchshifter song (the only variation with hyphens), it apparently has several different meanings. Often shortened to "Shen". This is the name that can be added to all the others, my "family" name (literally in some cases, such as Shen Fayray or Shen Alice (Shen is a Chinese name, so it goes first)).

Then came Doll. Originally a character created out of whimsy and a desire to "fuck with people" and see their reactions. An eternally 16 year-old girl, unsure of her sexuality. The reveal spawned Susan Dalle, who has a more concrete existence. Doll is no longer a name for me, but is used to describe an unnamed object of my affection.

Bruitist is an anomaly. Taken from a Refused song, it's a back-up name. Disconnected and without any real usage or derivatives like the others. I'm still the top result on Google though.

Finally, there's Alice. The latest and my current favourite. Given to me by my friend Kienan as "It's a female name that happens to fit you, I'm not really sure why. It's better than Susan, I know that." As with all names, it is subject to changes and derivatives such as Allison or Shen Alice/Shenalice. It has currently taken over from Shen, which may change or it may not...

That's it for now. Maybe I'll make a proper family tree one day and include all the names that have fallen by the wayside (Jerusalem, Clockwork man, and many more than have been transient and possibly forgotten) and all the derivatives of my common names. I could even include non-internet names, as some of these have crossed over and been used in place of my given name in certain situations.

The implied and the actual gender of these names is a subject for a later date.

Alice in popular culture sighting no. 2: In this month's issue of "Marvel comics presents", the story about Hellcat ("The Girl Who Could Be You") features Patsy Walker referring to one of the personalities that has split from her as "Alice in Wonderland". Presumably referring to the fact that she is wearing a blue dress and hairband similar in style to Alice's. Also possibly due to this being the polite and "proper" side of Patsy.

Alice in popular culture sighting no. 3: Today's Diesel Sweeties strip has Indie Rock Pete mentioning "Alice's looking glass" as an example of a strange alternate reality.

-Alice

Thursday, November 15, 2007

First post!

I had a dream last night. I won't go into the specifics of the dream as that's for somewhere that isn't here. The important part is that I woke up while my brain was in mid-tirade about bits in bread. You know the stuff I'm talking about, like Mighty White (which, according to Yahoo answers, does still exist). It was a tirade on how it's an affront to all the effort that has been put into the development of the milling process that produces fine flour without leftover husks and other assorted bits of crap that would otherwise make the bread unpalatable. Who the hell was having a slice of bread and thought to themselves "This would be so much better if it was full of hamster food that could get stuck in my teeth"?

Alice in popular culture sighting no. 1: In the episode of the Simpsons that was aired on Channel 4 last night (A hunka hunka Burns in love), Mr Burns uses words from the poem "Jabberwocky" twice. Check the Wikipedia link for more details.

-Alice